Pang Khee Teik debates with Facebook friend on why the young are joining the rally
Pang: i realise why msian govt is desperately frightened of bersih. they are scared it will turn into an uprising.
Friend: yeah true
it’s so scary
it’s sad to see youngster who knows nothing joining the rally
easy to be brain-washed
Pang: um
is it possible that those who are NOT joining the rally also brainwashed not to join?
don’t accuse people of being brainwashed. that is too easy an accusation to make.
we are all products of various influences.
the best we can do is to be aware of the influences and decide for ourselves whether we agree and whether they fit with our conscience.
if people are aware and act according to their conscience i am fine with it.
[Added later: people should be given the choice to choose which influences they like. and they can even have more than one. people are not as simple as we think they are.
but the key is to give people enough information so they can choose for themselves.]
Friend: but yeah, some people joining the rally just for the fun of it
and not to understand what is it for
Pang: but how do you know what they know?
this is the same as accusing gay people of “choosing” to be gay. being gay is so tough that nobody in their right mind would “choose” to be gay if there was such a choice. similarly, risking arrests and tear gas is really no fun, so i really don’t think anybody in their right mind would be doing it for fun.
Friend: hmmm…..ur a person with a strong opinion
Pang: if i take your first statement, you are saying it is OKAY to join the rally if the youngsters KNOW what they are doing it for?
Friend: no, im just saying that youngsters could be in the rally just to express rebellion, therefore it’s easy for them to say yes to anything
Pang: but if that is true for youngsters joining the rally, then it is true for youngsters joining anything. is everything done by youngsters an expression of rebellion? are the youngsters who are not joining perhaps doing it out of rebellion too? is that rebellion okay?
but if they are not expressing rebellion, then is it okay for them to join?
Friend: im just not sure
Pang: did you consider perhaps there might be other reasons they are joining? like maybe they are concerned about their future, and want a country that they could be proud of?
maybe they are joining the rally because they really care about those who don’t have their voices heard? maybe they care about those who are marginalised and discriminated by bad laws and policies in malaysia? and they want to do something about it?
Friend: could be one of the reason
Pang: anyway, as you can probably guess, i am joining the rally. and i hope you don’t think it is because i have been brainwashed.
Friend: oh ok
Pang: and i also know many others who are joining, and they are clear of the reasons they are joining. they want a better election process in malaysia.
Friend: maybe i shouldnt say anything more
i’m sorry i’m not really good in discussing things
Pang: but you have opinions.
and it is good.
if you have clear reasons and evidence for your opinions, you should be able to defend them. otherwise, you should also be willing to shift your opinion.
I am not sure aboput Illegals, PKFZ etc.. But I see lorryloads of sand getting into Singapore are clean. The lorries are clean and the sand is clean. Where they are cleaned out from I don't know?. Ask the SPAD Chief or the YAB MB. They surely will know. They too all say it is clean
Hey .. even the Singaporeans at the receiving end say they are clean. It must be clean then…
“being gay is so tough that nobody in their right mind would “choose” to be gay if there was such a choice.”
really? seriously? so we don’t have a “right mind”?
corruption by the billions as in PKFZ is clean, stealing sand as in JOHOR as shown in THE STAR is really clean, what a clean nation. millions of illegals here are clean? iS BERSIH REALLY DIRTY ?
Bunch of ASSHOLES wearing YELLOW (Bersih)
Bunch of WANKERS wearing RED (UMNO Youth)
Bunch of IDIOTS wearing PURPLE (Perkasa)
The govt. should just allocate an remote island somewhere in Malaysia for all these JACKASSES in Yellow, Red & Purple to fight it out. Allow them fight each other & more importantly allow them to kill each other until they are finally fed-up with all these nonsense. All these DUMBASS deserve ‘No Place’ in our modern society (let alone our beloved country called Malaysia). AMBIGA SUNDAL KELING & her konco-konco, IBRAHIM KATAK ALI & his konco-konco + KJ & his konco-konco are just a bunch of BARBARIC IDIOTS who are still living in Stone-age era preferring to march here & there shouting like CAVEMEN & CAVE WOMEN exclaiming excitement upon seeing something modern called an “Ipad”
Can we have an end to all these BERSIH nonsense??? Why don’t these BERSIH wankers just lock themselves up in their own bathroom & shout whatever they want??? At least with their own echoes in their bathroom might give them somekind of ‘syiok sendiri’ sensation, while, the nation enjoy peace & stability.
BERSIH, PERKASA & PATRIOT UMNO YOUTH…..go screw yaself, ok???
Don't you still know why we need BERSIH? Because the Govt and associates are behaving like CAVEMEN. And you sir, are absolutely content with peace and stability while the soul of the people are sucked dry. Do you suppose you have some intellect up there somewhere?
they didn't lock themselves up and shout in the bathroom as you have suggested because they were not shouting for nothing ;p. slow sangat la you ni.ugh.
Peace and stability? They're long gone, babe. It's just that it's not apparent. but well…the absence of evidence does not mean the evidence of absence.
well said and well played :)
A coward and his thoughts are bleached by his coward-ness.
Yes I am young and blood is hot. I rather act when I am young and not regretting of inaction when I am old and impotent.