Revisiting the topic of Malay rights from one side of the fence but in view of all.
We (and when I say we, I mean the non-Malays) often complain of the different privileges received by the different races. We condemn frequently organisations such as PERKASA, the “Ketuanan Melayu” mentality, and all the privileges that we see our Malay contemporaries get. We express disgusted disapproval of the inequality.
We whine that Malay is the national language and Islam is the national religion as opposed to our preferred language. Ah! We can also go on about how much sacrifice it is to go to a halal restaurant, because you have a Malay friend with the group.
So, one day say, the Prime Minister tells us that he has the mandate from the Malays and wants to negotiate a compromise. Mr. PM will ask of our dissatisfaction, and we will give him a long list: we want our children to be admitted to all public universities, we want to be given more business licenses, we want to either take away the Bumiputera discount or get the same discount, we want to be given the privilege to buy special shares so as to earn money, and the list goes on.
Mr. PM says, “Fine, we can come to a compromise and I can agree to at least half of your requests, but will you agree to give up vernacular schools and make our education system a one-school system?” Funnily enough, before he can explain how the individual vernacular language will be taught as an elective subject in all schools (private or public) and that it will eventually delete one of the many causes of racial disunity, the strongest protesters of that proposal will be the same persons who claim injustice in the first place.
If change is indeed a goal, there are sacrifices we have to make. We can argue until the cows come home that we are giving up our right to learn our mother tongue and our roots, but we are Malaysians and it is about time we should start acting like Malaysians. Our roots are all here in Malaysia, not in China or India. Do we really expect them to give up what they have been enjoying for more than five decades in the name of change without us making an effort at the same time? If we do, how then can we advocate for fairness?
As many would remember telling me in their wisdom to look at the big picture, and the big picture here is that giving up vernacular schools will mean lesser racial disunity. The usual trend is that the cliques are racial based and that barrier is language. Really, be honest, you would have used the excuse of not being able to have more friends of other races because of language. I have that problem.
The big picture is that if we can accept each other, we can learn from each other and the troubling PERKASA will not exist to protect the rights of the Malays.
The big picture is that there is hope for change.
The recent racist slur by the Headmaster/Headmistress in National Schools have shown the real reason why non-Malays shun National Schools. Who in their right mind would want to send their children to a school that will discriminate against them? Who would want their children be subjected to racism and hatreds at a tender young age? Non-Malays will continue to shun national school as long as the national schools are run by racists.
why loyarburok turning into topix style arguement.
Enough la with this malay, indian, chinese, iban, kadazan racist talk.
There's only 2 category:
Lawyer and non lawyer.
Ahusni,
this is something seditious. i wonder whether we can apply ISA here for purposely raising racial remark. as per handbook 101 on "How to be a PERKASA youth", do threat others and cite racial clash incident when you have no relevant point to say.
Don’t push your luck… Pisang tidak akan berbuah dua kali… Malay people will not let the ungrateful people steals away our country the way the ungrateful Chinese took away Singapore from the Singapore Malays. The consequences from 13th May was sthg to be remembered and avoided..
UMNO should show ‘Melayu power’ to Indonesia government. Why, you just go to batam and bintan islands, the nearest to Malaysia. Melayu living in seaside, where orang badak, menang, chinese, javanese are opened ‘toko or shop’. Melayu will be kick back to pekanbaru if showing the power in Jakarta.
I have ok to Melayu, but not ok to UMNO.
aku orang melayu, aku orang MAlaysia. Aku takkan lupakan asal usul Melayu aku, tapi aku berani cakap orang macam Nazri tu yang akan meruntuhkan Malaysia nih. orang macam Nazri tu yang akan memporak perandakan Malaysia. Kalau masih ramai orang yang bersifat perkauman, biarkanlah. We as generasi baru Malaysia, mulakan perubahan. Mulakan dengan perubahan diri sendiri.
Hang Li Poh,
new findings i should say. if we traced back the history itself, Parameswara did ran from Majapahit or Palembang; whichever one. he brought a fleet of "Orang Laut" with him and settled down in Melaka. this piece does fit with your e-mail. thus, we can conclude those ppl that keep on clinging to "bumiputra" issue were not paying attention to their history teacher back in school days. LOL
This was a rather interesting and intense with a touch of vulgarism debate to stumble upon whilst trying to search up details in regards to Hang Li Poh.
I am probably not writing in response to Ms Ong or TAN's response to Ms Ong but the rest of the threads.
Brings back memory of my primary years when A malay boy stole my fancy looking pencil and when I brought the issue up to the teacher who was malay, she turned a blind eye even though the explanation the boy gave was clearly made up, and I had to just let go of my fancy pencil.
Anyway, I thought I'd add fuel to whatever fire there was, Not long ago I receive an email in regards to the origin of the word MELAYU and it was said to have been written by a Malay person, However I am uncertain of that fact. Just a couple of paragraph that I thought was relevant enough, Although the whole article was in essence.
{{ Melayu is derived from the Javanese word Melayu, there are many other words in the Malay vocabulary that actually come from the various Asian languages mostly those of Sanskrit Origin.
The Sanskrit in Malay is derived from the Indian influence of the Majapahit, Srivijaya and other Indian influences in South East Asia. This particular word in Bahasa Malaysia is derived from the word Melayu from Javanese. Javanese was the lingua franca of the people in the region having had its own script, which was actually taken from the Arabic script, the bugis and the rest have dialects close to Javanese.
The Malay language in its romanised context only evolved in the early part of the 20th century.
In Javanese the word Melayu means running away, or a runaway, that is why if you go to Java and ask a Javanese if he is Melayu he will feel very insulted.
These people, the runaways whether in Sumatra or in the Malay Peninsula referred to themselves as orang Melayu, it is therefore no coincidence that the word orang is placed before Melayu, people who ran away so to speak.
In the Malay Peninsular, it was gradually accepted as the word to describe the Javanese, the Bugis, the Menang, the Achinese etc. and even the Kelantanese who are actually Yunanese and have their origins in China, because they recognized the fact that at the end of the day they were all Melayu, or Run Aways from their respective homelands the word was accepted by all these communities to describe themselves.
In fact, before the formation of the United Malays National Organisation (UMNO), it is a fact that all the people in the country had referred to themselves as Menang, Achinese, Bugis, Javanese etc. etc. and we all know that the Kelantanese used to treat the other Melayu, that is the Menang, Javanese, the Bugis etc. as foreigners.
Well for that matter, even Mahathir Mohammed was registered as Indian in King Edwards College where he studied medicine.
The Malay therefore very much like the Indians, and later the Chinese are Melayu in the very true sense of the word because they all left their respective countries to come to this location in South East Asia called Malaysia today.
}}
The change we want
2010-07-09 18:38
By TAN LEE CHIN
Sometime ago an article entitled We, the non-Malays by a Ms Eunice Ong was posted on http://www.loyarburok.com.
I would like to respond to some of the points raised in the article. Note that what I say here is my personal opinion. I cannot claim to speak on behalf of all the non-Malays.
As a firm believer in the freedom of speech, I fully respect the writer's view, but I would like to present another perspective on the matter she raised.
I am a proud product and supporter of the vernacular school system, and have a dream to see progress and changes in my beautiful motherland of Malaysia, the only homeland I ever have.
Ms Ong had attempted to look into the issue of Malay rights from a non-Malay perception and perspective.
Her main argument is that the non-Malays, after complaining so much on the privileges received by our Malay countrymen and making endless appeals for change from our end, still refuse to make sacrifices like accepting Bahasa Melayu as the national language and Islam as the national religion, or even just sharing a meal with our Malay friends in a halal restaurant.
I believe that we, the non Malays, might have not been 100% perfect in our daily interactions and dealings with our Malay friends, but I doubt many of us object to Bahasa Melayu as our national language or have any reservation on respecting Islam as the religion of the land.
We will, of course, object and protest if our rights to mother tongue education and freedom of religious beliefs and practices as provided for in the Federal Constitution are violated.
Contrary to Ms Ong's presumption that some non-Malays might think that going to a halal eatery is a sacrifice, I doubt many will have any thoughts over such a social interaction. Most will just accept it as a matter of fact. I don’t think any sensible person will consider such matters an issue at all.
I, for one, enjoy the halal mamak delicacies as well as ikan bakar served in the Sin Chew Cafeteria. Yes, for a company with a majority Chinese staff, we have a Malay stall catering for Malay workers. The halal food outlet is also very popular with the non-Malay workers
I have often contended that a single stream education system is not the solution for the many problems we face, in particular, disunity among the races.
The writer has claimed that social cliques are race based, and the various languages form a barrier to racial interaction.
Let me narrate a real life example of how language need not be a barrier in making friends, real friends.
My mother is less privileged in terms of education opportunity because she only had two years of formal education. She is now in her sixties going to seventies.
Mum speaks Mandarin, Hokkien, Melanau and the most broken Malay one could ever imagine. But Kak Amoy, a Malay helper to our family 20 years ago and who only speaks Malay, has been Mum’s best friend till this day.
How they communicate with each other does not require rocket science, but simply through the heart – a matter of affection and sincerity.
Over the years, Mum's Malay has certainly improved by leaps and bounds.
Some might think that Mum is an exception, since she is a Chinese who grew up in a Melanau Kampung at Mukah in Sarawak. She doesn’t belong to our generation, does she? Moreover, she did not really go to school, so she is not very much a product of our education system. We can't consider her case when discussing our education system, ya?
But, is language the only tool to national integration?
Obviously, language needs not be an obstacle to friendship between the various races.
Now, let us look at Ms Ong's suggestion on doing away with the vernacular schools.
Here, let me draw the attention of the readers to the current local political situation.
The governing coalition led by Umno is formed by different race-based political parties, each representing the interests of their respective race.
Among them, many politicians will not hesitate to play the racial card to their personal interest, even if it is at the detriment of the nation.
Would it be wise to abolish the vernacular schools now, or integrate them into the national education?
I don't wish to speculate, but, if we are to give up our rights to education via the medium of our choice, what other rights will we have to give up for the sake of national unity in future?
With due respect, Ms Ong's suggestion of abolishing vernacular schools is an oversimplified unrealistic solution to the complicated state of affair that our nation is facing.
Many Malaysian are angry, they are bothered by many issues like corruption, misuse of powers by the authorities, inefficient government bodies, doubts on the independence of the judiciary, etc. These issues are not racial or religious, but simply basic moral, civil and social matters that affect every citizen whatever his or her race or religion, or language.
Vernacular schools products like me and most other Malaysians are concerned about these issues, and we want to see a change for the better in our nation. Such a change is expected by all Malaysians.
We will have to make sacrifice for the change, and it starts with us individually.
For a start, let’s stop giving bribes to traffic police, stop greasing hands to get things done at government offices.
Don’t politicize the vernacular school system. Leave the vernacular schools alone. The problems dividing the people of various races are not caused by them, but by politicians exploiting the racial sentiments.
My dream is to see my country progress to be an united harmonious nation, where our politicians dispute on ideals, not playing the racial and religious cards.
That, indeed, is the change we should be striving for.
The writer is the deputy head of the Culture & Education Department of Sin Chew Daily
( The opinions expressed by the writer do not necessarily reflect those of MySinchew )
MySinchew 2010-07-09
I was having a conversation with 2 friends one day. 1 Malay 1 Iban. We were talking about transportation systems and i said "Car Loans are quite heavy.." The reply i got from them was "No ah! Its really good and easy… Oh wait… I forgot you're Chinese" When a country has such a conversation something is sincerely wrong. 1 Malaysia or not we should work together to advance the country as a whole regardless of race. If that's the case it would be great! I would like to disagree about separate schools being a factor. Have you seen the situation in national schools? The races are still segregated. Reason? The Islamic Teachers in charge of their religious education corrupt young minds. Telling them the other races eat pork and are tainted. I've even seen a document from my young cousin, showing a list of things that are not-halal supposedly by a "University Lecturer" but at the end there was no signature (Just to give you an idea Brylcreem and KFC were in that list -.-). He (My cousin) had a malay friend that was adamant regarding this and he was eventually isolated from his Malay friends and caved in to peer pressure. =/ The problem, if you ask me is not so much race but religion (In Malaysia it can be used interchangeably where Malays are concerned because you can become a "Malay" by entering Islam, you're born Islam without a choice and you're forbidden to leave Islam.). I know many interracial couples out there that have broken up because Islam in this country forces the spouse to convert before marriage. My solution (It will probably never happen) is to remove religion from state. (Every country that put religion and state together had problems. Indulgences was one good/bad example when Church and state were a consolidated power)
First of all the number of interracial couples/marriages would rise. (this would in turn form an acceptance among different races and a better cross cultural understanding.). If all goes well after 2 – 3 generations. The children of Malaysia will not be able to call themselves Malay/Chinese/Indian or even Chindian/Mamak or what not, simply because your heritage could be so mixed you would best refer yourself as a Malaysian. If you ask me its not really the difference in races but the false religious freedom that exists.
I could really see 1Malaysia being achieved if this happens.
Tuah,
man, your logic is better by an inch with my 5 yr old daughter. "how does a man shall migrate from island to mainland? it should be from mainland to island." you are saying indonesia = island, M'sia = mainland. thus, you say malay live in M'sia (mainland) is not coming from Indon (island). so, does China is an island? how about India = island? aiyoh, you confuse me lar dude?
another one, man will ONLY migrate from mainland to island (based on your clever logic). so, indonesian migrate from M'sia lah that way? if any indonesian is presence anywhere here, they are not immigrant, right? their ancestors born here but migrate to Indon (island). now i know. thanks for the info, dude. i learned a LOT.
p/s : should i translate for you to knock some sense inside?
Edward,
i started to bitch like you already. LOL. dude, i got your points clearly. still, ppl that howl on racial hatred is abundant and they are the rotten apple here. there should not be any issue of race but the bias treatment and prejudice on race difference had arised for too long. yes, the americans are proud of Uncle Sam but racial prejudice is still there. do you remember the black panther movement? or the white supremacy movement? and even anti-semitic group? majority demands peace, ppl like you and me. we want a place that offer fair trade, fair treatment, and security. fair means treatment without prejudice. that's all. still, these arrogant chaps keep on trumpeting bad tunes toward racial integration. this is also rooted on me by my mixed parentage.
Tanah Melayu tetap milik Melayu! Sungguh bodoh manusia yang berkata Melayu Malaysia berasal dari Indonesia, teramat bodoh kerana tidak berfikir logik, bagaimana manusia berhijrah dari pulau ke tanah besar, mestilah dari tanah besar ke pulau.
Kalau tuduh Melayu bukan berasal dari Malaysia, Cina India lagi sah-sah adalah pendatang!!
P/s: Use BM, LOL. Malaysia own by all Malaysian, but Malay Land (Tanah Melayu) is forever for Malays.
I guess it's clear from some of the comments stated here that the prevailing issue still remains. Stop with all the I am Chinese, Indian, Malay, bullshit! You want equality? Call yourself Malaysian then! If you're 'Chinese', go back to China. If you're 'Indian', go back to India! Maybe it's from my mixed parentage that has me thinking differently.
Immigrants who go to the US become proud to call themselves citizens of the 'red, white and blue'. The US was made from immigrants from all over Europe. But you don't see any of them lay claim to their originating country. No one bothers to be Portuguese, English, Spanish, etc. If you can't be like that, stop demanding fairness or the races. It's the simple fact that you still lay claim to your 'race' that's the main issue here. Not the government. We have to look past the governments' issue and focus on our ownselves first.
Man, have I bitched about this for a long time and so did Raja Petra in his Malaysiakini blog before. But it seems non-Malays are still unwilling to let go of their heritage. As if holding unto heritage is doing any good to anyone's life.
I think what Nazri started out trying to say is that since we came later than the Malays, they have the right to dictate the laws of the land and by right, we shouldn't have any problem adapting. It's like, well, if you visit a Japanese family abroad to stay with them for a week, you have to work around their diets and cultural practices, not the other way round. In a way, many of us non-Malays have lived many years accepting the privileges accorded to the Bumiputeras. On principle, no problem right? Help the locals a bit. As long as the rest can live peacefully and allowed to work for our salaries, all is fine. But then, several issues have since cropped up to bring us to this mess called "increased intolerance among Malaysian ethnicities".
1. The Government's continued usage of racial politics to sustain power.
2. The fact that we are second, third, fourth generation non-Malays who are suddenly exposed to the revelation that the Constitution doesn't make specific claims on "Malay Rights". (Well, everyone will interpret it according to their own interest la but it sure sounds as if there's supposed to be protection of the indigenous peoples but NOT at the expense of the rights of the rest.)
3. The knowledge that the NEP has not worked as intended with hak orang asal being biased towards Malays at the expense of the other native Malaysians PLUS the continued existence of poor rural folk in light of "supposed" help.
4. Corruption at the top administration leading to lack of focus on improving everything from the education to public transport systems.
This is a potent combination for regression to the late 60's when THAT thing happened. But at least then, there were good schools and good teachers.
Which brings me to the topic of this post in the first place.
I mean, I gained a lot from attending kebangsaan schools at the beginning of the 80's. There was absolutely no problem even when we filled in forms with different race boxes. We mixed well and stayed over at each other's homes. We were proud of who were because we were many different ethnicities who called Malaysia home. Or maybe we were just ignorant young children. Innocent, maybe. But heck, we lived like true Malaysians then.
With the issues listed above, how can we expect anything different today? I'm a parent now to a 16 month old boy. I already worry about what school to send him to. His dad is Indian, I am Chinese. We speak English at home and a smattering of Malay and Cantonese. I just don't think the national schools we attended are any good anymore. It's one thing to send your child to a school where he has to salam the teacher by kissing his/her hand the way Malays do because, well, it's a nice thing to do. It's about respect in the local context. But by the time he's old enough to attend primary school, given the political scene here, would he be discriminated by the other races? What if there are gangs at high school? We've all read about the horrible events at the Rawang high school. The fact with schools is, we choose what we feel is best for our kid in terms of receiving good education – moral education too, beyond maths and science and all that sense. We want discipline. We want SAFETY.
To be honest, while I have the option to send my boy to a Chinese school, I don't particularly like the fact that they load the kids up on homework like crazy. I mean, I am of the belief that good education needs to be a good balance of academia, interaction, recreation. School should be fun la. Or else the kids end up memorizing stuff again. How will we produce creative thinkers that Najib wants then? Same with kebangsaan schools. How to produce creative thinkers if the teachers just dictate from textbooks and the kids copy fact after fact into big ledger size books?
We can use this forum to fight about who came first and who should leave la. Frankly speaking, I was born here so I think I have the right to stay. But I also have the right to speak up about things that affect my life here if they don't measure up. Since I am all grown up now and I've read that this "Malay" rights thing has been blown out of proportion and that I've seen older friends who attend local universities where the Malays and Chinese and Indians don't mix, I want to use my right as a Malaysian to say that well, it's okay if the Malays get into local universities easy while the rest work extra hard and pray for a place. Given the state of the education system here, along with the social segregation that has occurred in recent years, I don't think my child will thrive in such a school anyway. Like Nazri says, we either live with this fact or we go. The more fortunate few of us can afford to go or send our kids to private schools. The rest will just have to homeschool their kids or, well, vote wisely.
Tommy,
some ppl are not looking it that way. while the majority here are all opting for a unified nation, regardless off the colour, few ppl keep on trumpeting racial hatred and making bad remarks on others with such bold vulgarities. i'm thinking of asking LB to ban this fella if he kept on babbling on his nonsense arguments.
p/s : it's actually "mayang ulik". btw, why do you prefer to sing that song. it's haunted, man.. *making eerie sound
Wow,after the article was over so long, there's still so much hate here. Cant we just all sing along to "mayang ulei"(sorry if i got that wrong…) while lauging about a joke or two?
last piece of word from me… " Whose to say who's malay? whose to say who's chinese? aren't we all people here? just looking for some happiness to call our own? Does hating really bring that happiness? "
Fargoman,
i agreed on your point of vernacular schools.most Mara students are not mixing well with society even lack human capital skills to compete outside.most of them opt for public service, where Malays mostly resides due to fear of not able to perform.did they ever been accused of being racial prejudice? Never! instead, all blame vernacular schools yet both work in similar way. i never able to figure that out. percentage of malay students in vernacular schools had increased suggesting that urban society of Malays have more faith in it compared to national school. this alone shows quality of national school had been compramised due to bad administration.
Samp,
thanks for your insight. it is true on origin of Malay. yet, ashamed of those origin, they crafted their own history to claim false identity. pity them, scrambling on baseless stand just to cover their disadvantages. i already stated that there is no such thing of ownership here. we are all in a same boat. my foster mother is a punjab, my best friend is a chinese and my neighbour is a kadazan dusun. i love to regard my self as Malaysian and definitely NOT "Malay"sian. read back article 153 of Federal Constitution, there is no such thing as Malay rights.
Yuking,
it is true on 1969 incident, chinese had been victimised. my condolence for all those who shed blood wrongly. it is a consiracy to topple the late Tunku Abd Rahman. concrete evidence showed how a group of Malay started the riot out of nothing. i don't see any problem of celebrating election victory. do refer the Commonwealth archieve in London, written reports on how armed forces purposedly shot chinese shops. is this what they call justice?
Nazri,
Please stop commenting here. u r bringing shame to Islam as a whole. i don't recall any teachings that condemned other ppl despite their colour or belief. u r a living evidence that Malay is nothing but shameless cowardice, make a living with ppl misery. you r agent of chaos, i believe Malaysia will be better without the likes of you! i hope God will pay u for all bad deeds that you had done, you'll then know how hurtfull it was with such vulgar comments you made on others.
The truth is that the ability of education to bring people together is limited. On top of that, education – at least secular one – is about the pursuit of knowledge and truth, and hence whatever is taught in schools should be based on the reality and truth in order to unite the students.
But when our society is already polarised by the law and other economic realities, and we tell our children otherwise in school, its likely that the unity lessons will never stick for long or even worse result in a backlash.
What is more distressing is the fact that national education policy is only meant for the masses while our political leaders send their children overseas. Can we believe they have faith in our own educational facilities and that they are sincere in wanting the best for us?
In Malaysia, unfairness is institutionalised. For example, it is alright for certain schools or universities like the Universiti Institut Teknologi Mara to bar non-malays.
So it piques me to hear some blaming vernacular schools for racial tensions. Vernacular schools have never barred malays from enrolling into them unlike Mara educational institutions. If vernacular schools are to be blamed, so too must the Mara institutions.
A minister responsible for higher education who can make such inflammatory statements confirms that the so-called meritocracy system of university entrance is a sham, since he is able to promise that the percentage for malay applicants will never fall below the previous quota percentage.
Is he suggesting that we should rejoice over our poor education? Please do not confuse quality with quantity.
I cannot help but think that the politicians have an ulterior motive. If so, please be honest and brave enough to admit it.
With such narrow-minded people in charge, it is difficult to have confidence in any of their suggestions.
When it came to choosing a career, I avoided public services for the fear of being excluded from promotions just like how I was excluded from matriculation etc. Many employers are also very racially defined.
Now, as much as I miss hanging out with people of other races, I end up being with people of my own race.
Looking back, I don't think our primary vernacular system is the cause of disunity. On the contrary, it enriches our Malaysia heritage. The real problems are with the uneven playing fields that split malays and non-malays from secondary school onwards.
Another examples are the Chinese Indonesians. Most of them don't even speak their mother tongue, nor do they even carry Chinese names anymore, yet come any major political turmoil, they are targeted by the majority. Is this due to vernacular education?
The government should be aware of the fact that the number of Chinese schools has not increased over the past 30 years despite the need for them due to increased demand from both Chinese and non-Chinese students.
The diversity of education methods in the country is a national treasure and should be upheld. Unity will come from mutual respect and fair treatment for all – not necessarily from a uniform education.
Whether they will take concrete steps to address the imbalance is another matter for, while I am optimistic about the people of Malaysia, I have very little faith in politicians.
This malay pig race is so stupid, that they'd never amount to anything in this world.
This message board has been here for awhile, and if anyone goes back, there is no one message, that talks good about this stupid malay pig race, because everybody knows how stupid, and hateful this malay pig race is all about.
The malay pig will crumble from internal weaknesses and disappear in era of globalization – no need for others to colonize them.
Because malay pig like to be parasites and feed on the Chinese income tax!
Wait until the malay pig population increase to 90% in Malaysia, the same ratio as in Indonesia, then you will know the meaning of poor, as there will be too many malay pig to subsidize.
Then the economy collapse.
The malay pig are actually digging their own grave and they are trying to dig a deeper and bigger one now.
But all of them I have to see are being manipulated by certain top malay politicians so they will support them.
There show that the general malay pig are quite stupid and can't think outside the box.
Only 1% of the malay pig can make it and they are the exceptions. If malay pig are not stupid, what are they?
If all malay pig jump into sea and all die!
This world will become very very beautiful.
Malays have done wonders in terms of denying truth, while doing so, through policies of government raked in ill wealth for years. Malays are rich, I mean really rich.
Malays had certain qualities that other races in this country do not, but I must emphasise "had". Qualities such as "speaking less", contended, know how to read and understand the holy Quran (I know that nowadays Muslim kids spent 10 years of religious classes in school and end up not knowing).
But all done and said, the day malays deny their past, is the beginning of their end. Malays were Hindus once, as was the whole South East Asia, later some South East Asia went for Buddhism while the others went for Islam.
Who taught South East Asia races to plant paddy in a systematic manner? Who taught South East Asia races language skills, reading and writing?
The very essence of everything that South East Asia races are based on till today was taught by Tamils. Don't you guys notice that South East Asia races have similar writing codes, that are because it is based on Tamil. It even sounds like Tamil.
For peninsula: Tamils called the local inhabitants as "malai allu", basically means "people who dwell in the hills", this would mean Orang Asli, for they dwell in the hills, what is known as malays today was non-existent.
As malays are well known to do, they incorporated this term "malai" – whence they started to land in the peninsula from Nusantara, and claimed the term "malai" as their own. This race has this peculiar trait of claiming that which is not theirs.
Deny this, and you deny your past, anyone who denies his past, denies his future. Malays……….be my guest.
Guess who is the master race? The master race doesn't doing some weird policy (NEP), or go around brandishing some knife, which if you really put some thinking into it, put the race on a sure path to beggary.
The reason why I commented as above is because I want malays to know that they are not tuan punya tanah.
For myself, as a Tamil, I will state what my forbearers have done centuries before, the truth is, no one owns this land, this land is owned only by – the one and only one – God.
This soil needs administration, not ownership. Accept that.
You stinking malay pig, please get the f*** back to your own land in Aceh or Jawa, whatever. Because this is Tanah Orang Asli and malay pig like you are pendatang!
To non-malays……….time and time again we have said that the malays are from Jawa. I always say that they are from Aceh, Sumatra, etc – do you see anyone of these racists (obviously malays) objecting to that fact?
This is the truth and they cannot handle this. They don't dare say that because it is so true! Even Mahathir admitted recently – the origins of the malays are not Malaysia but Indonesia – Sumatra and island etc.
The real bumis are the natives of Borneo and the Orang Asli. Not these malay free loaders and wasted sperms.
"Son of the soil" incorrect! More appropriate term would be "Rapist of the soil"! Malays are pendatang, they called Chinese and Indians pendatang! Tak malu!
To malays pendatang from Indonesia, you are also enemy to Indonesia, stupid! Apa? Tak faham English? Makan tahi dan berambus balik ke Jawa! Setia kepada negara Indonesia! So are you, malay pig!
Aren't you a bloody hypocrite? You are not the Orang Asli of this country – you are an immigrant from Jawa, Sulawesi, all elsewhere – why did you come here to this country then?
Why not help your own country (or should I say your dilapidated kampung in Jawa) and improve the situation then? What……….what did you say? Oh you want a better life is it? I see – so what does that make you? A patriotic fake? Or a hypocrite with no substance?
Compare China and Indonesia – then tell me who is faring better in the international stage! You useless malay pig. At the end of the day – you work for me.
Obviously, you are worse than shit. Not pigs, for pigs are really smart animals. Tanah Melayu my ass! Orang Asli were here before your ancestors crept onto this land. Learn some history, ok? Of course, you can always change history! Tak malu kah!
You are sick in the brain, thanks to Mahathir!
Chinese got pissed off as not all Chinese are rich, but all work their asses off to make an honest living, while idiots like you think that you are entitled to riches without sweating. What discontent? After all the handouts all these years, you still couldn't get your acts together, and you want to blame others, the Chinese, the Indians? Where is your dignity?
What anger? You get angry at the Olympics because malays can't run faster than the Americans? The Aussies? The Chinese? (Just imagine some of you jokers made it to the Olympics, although none did!)
If you want to run amok, go ahead, join the apes and chimpanzees, your kind have been doing that at Perak, brainless monkeys they are, and so are you, go flock together.
The reason why malays tend to run "amok" is because of close relative breeding. Just like non-high breed dogs – brother have sex with the mother, and father marry their own sister, and the confusion goes on.
The end result is non-high breed dogs – that are difficult to train and tend to even bite their own master. Unlike the Chinese, they are very careful not to have too close relative marrying one another.
That is why you can see how Chinese excel in different part of the world. The Chinese are indeed a world race now, as China progress with such speed which is unknown off in any other race in the world!
Singapore is a fine example of Chinese superiority! Sad news for the malay race but then again it is the truth!
(Malay extremists racists are going to call you pendatang etc, even hang you upside down by your balls, for socking them in the balls where it hurts most, like you did.
But you have been brave in telling them the truth about the dark side of their race which explains why they are so backward. God be with you……….)
Rich and successful Chinese don't owe you a thing. Not so successful Chinese are working honestly to make ends meet. So, you either work, or go get fed in the ass by Mahathir, ok? He won't charge you for the ecstasy and the service you may receive.
You are nothing but scum. You give fellow malays a bad name. You make your parents lose face. When you look in the mirror, what do you see? A good-for-nothing idiot! That is all there is in you.
You are a babi hutan from either the jungle of Jawa or Sumatra. All you Umno malay pig are in fact pendatang to this Tanah Orang Asli. So get the f*** out of my country!
We can't change it politically, you are wrong. We will.
Once this country is run by terms of equal rights, where each citizen play by the rules and regulations of total fairness, then we shall see where the malays will stand.
Right down at the bottom? Most probably, yes! Not only the non-malays will agree, the whole world would probably agree as well. In fact some malays will agree this as well.
The only thing that all of us can see, whether you are a Malaysian, or non-Malaysian, is that the malays here will never change. Not now, never will.
Your level of intelligence and pathetic sense of judgement depict not only how truthfully and incompetently low life beings you are, crawling at the lowest level of the human hierarchy, begging for alms, practically putting all your grotesque clown-butt ugly faces in front of the world, self admitting that even maggots feasting on a pile of dung, looks and sounds much much better.
You defense on your malay race, will not conclude anything, but strengthen the fact that even your pure existence in this very world of civilized human beings, is worse than the thought of having an incest driven rapist over for dinner.
Ponder upon this, there is no point defending for yourselves, save it. The fact and all the truth speak louder than just stupid farts coming out from your infested mouth fueled by your retarded brain.
To be honest, how naive you are with your pointless talk, we can see it in every glory in your statement here. In fact by calling you stupid, would be the most insulting thing by being stupid. Have you ever heard of the word opposition?
Think my friend, if there is no such thing as bravery to challenge the government face to face, why would oppositions be there?
By now, your retarded brain must be struggling, thinking, hey what is the point of oppositions if they are not effective enough to fight against the government? Good question.
One word – CORRUPTION.
The rest of the picture, I will also leave it up to you.
The real cowards in Malaysia are the group of people who survive under bogus unfair rights, fictional promises which only rat testicles will believe they are true.
The same group of people who destroying the country with their own social menaces, incest activities, drugs, materialistic punks with brains the size of a chicken shit, etc.
The same group of people who are spoilt by unreasonable, pointless, total waste of time support from the government. Which even that, on that very constant support, they are still licking their own balls, nursing their injury, shamelessly.
And still as of yet, presently and logically categorized as the poorest class citizens who only survive by politically sucking other people's hard earned benefits.
The same group of people who idolizes external portrayal of physical goodness, but mentally and reality, are bunch of idiotic hypocrites nothing better than a rotting pair of pig testicles. Even the maggots would think twice of devouring such a distasteful crap.
I am sick and tired of saying this over and over again. I honestly believe, that every single malay individual in this country, within their very heart, and best interests, know where they stand. They know right from the start, that they can't win in a fair and equal environment.
Their fictitious pride and ego made them proud of their weakness, never ever have the guts to admit their weaker side.
And how do you think they survive? By playing dirty. And most of the time, very very dirty. To those malays who are successful, trust me, they are not pure malays. They are even embarrassed by the fact that they are malays.
Think………………….
Still think and insist malays are for perpaduan? fair? got integrity and dignity?
The only way to have perpaduan is: you motherf-ker stripe your own babi status and come to term with other races on level playing field – that is what we call a step towards perpaduan!
We are all Malaysians, why not? What is your problem??????????
Now the answer to this I leave it to you to think. How you want to think it with your level of stupidity, I have truly no idea.
Bodoh punya melayu babi……….
Baik balik ke tanah melayu la. We are natives of Sabah and Sarawak land – buat apa kamu punya orang datang sini menjajah kita oh?
Kita tak suka kamu orang datang sini mengorek sumber petroleum tanah kita – this Sabah and Sarawak land not belongs to your malays.
Get out from Sabah and Sarawak la!
Bodoh melayu babi!
I have the same thoughts. The Islamic peoples, especially the malays, think they are somehow superior because they don't eat pork.
Or reverse, they think the Chinese and other pork eating peoples such as the Americans, Europeans, Japanese etc, are filthy because they eat pork. But the truth is the pork eating peoples are much healthier, wealthier, and overall superior.
The life expectancy of the Japanese is the highest in the world and the Japanese peoples eat a lot of pork. In fact, judging by the life expectancy, the Islamic peoples have the shortest expectancy or the most inferior level of living standard. If this means that they are inferior, then they certainly are.
Maybe as suggested, the malays should copy the Chinese and start eating pork to improve themselves overall. Obviously, not eating pork hasn't helped them to advance.
The founders of kingdoms and sultanates were nothing but a bunch of pirates, robbers and thieves, so what is so "great" about being of royal blood?
Hey, you pathetic cow and all the babiputras who have the same feeling/thinking like them. You don't feel shame being spoon feed by government using the taxpayers money?
I guess all the protection policy make you all even more lazy and narrow minded and stupid. The majority of you once step out of the Malaysia soil will sure starve to death.
Hoy, I think you should try some pork meat once a while to make you more intelligent a bit. Look at around the world region, anti pork meat countries are mostly rippled with starving and war or worst, non-stop crying for government policy protection.
Fact is fact when you babiputras are stupid is always stupid – although it can be help by consistent protection and nourishment policy but the end result will not go far because the quality of gene is there.
Know what malay pig? A suck babi hutan pendatang from Indonesia, pencuri of Tanah Orang Asli, should be caught by all the Chinese whom you have insulted.
They will then pack you in a pig basket, parade you round Chinatown in KL, to let the Chinese pelt rotten eggs, throw shit and pour all the pig shit from the nearby pig farms on your head.
Then let them take you out of your pig basket and roast you over an extremely hot fire until you become barbecued pork. After that chop your stinking carcass and leave it in the streets of rural for all those vultures and crows to feed on. Good riddance to bad rubbish.
Why only malays? You think this country is yours alone? What has the government really done for the pribumis and the Orang Asli? Look at how Umno has screwed up Sabah Indonesians and Filipinos getting citizenship and enjoying the same benefits as you the moment they hop off the boat!
You go ask the government to stop all that then I will stop thinking you are speaking through your asshole.
Podah! You are nothing but a chauvinist malay pig like the rest.
It seems like Malaysia is still not ready for globalisation because of a bunch of anti-social racist morons like you. Our country already independent for so many donkey years but sorry to see still got such shortsighted moron like you.
Bangsa melayu failed in the past 30 years with lots of help from Umno but still failed! Then they blame the Chinese cheat la, marginalise them la, this la that la……….so much excuses! If you are pariah, forever you are pariah!
If you malay pig race lazy, no matter how much with the government help, it will back to square.
For me, I just speak up what I had observed and not like the malay race who is always jealous about other race success. Bad hearted.
What the hell you ask all the Chinese to get out from Malaysia in your comment post? It is proven you are another racist moron bastard!
Malay failure is the fact! It has been happened since 30 years ago and not just now. If you keep on denying it proven again you are just another loser or hypocrite!
Truth – what is so proud of asking Chinese to be like your kind of robbers, liars, cheaters in Malaysia? Kaum tongkat yang langsung tak tahu malu! Yes, you motherf***ker are stupid, lazy, fanatic, thus you need tongkat forever! Dick head!
Kaum tongkat still can survive in most of the zoos overseas. See the UPM red shirt "Orang Utan". At least they could be the laughing stock to this world.
If malays with 50% population in Malaysia none of them success, then I reckon you jump to the sea. That so!
Once again, with you racist pig moron, Malaysia wouldn't go far as far as globalisation is all about!
You are truly one of those Umno babi hutan with shit plastered all over your brain and fulfilling Hang Tuah policy in reverse! With babi hutan like you whose brains are filled with tahi babi – it would be melayu akan hilang di dunia!
My my, when one cannot argue with reason, they resorted to vulgarities… thank you for showing your true color.
Do you also know that the May 13 incidents, the Chinese were victimized wrongly?
In truth, before 1969, the malays were in despot state yet Malaysia’s economy was vibrant.
Despite the Chinese being more economically prosperous, but in truth they only owned not more than 20% of the nation’s equity.
The bulk of the nation’s wealth went to Britain as the British still controlled most of our country’s wealth, i.e. rubber and tin.
But Umno didn’t tell the malays that. Instead, they told the malays that most wealth are going to the Chinese and therefore, the Chinese are making the malays poor.
Umno didn’t want to tell the malays that it was Umno who agreed for the British to remain in control of Malaysia’s wealth. And that Umno dare not retake the wealth away from the British.
Furthermore, the MCA and MIC didn’t help as well as they too benefited from the anti Chinese and anti malay sentiment.
So, when problems cannot be solved and the malays were openly rebelling against Umno, the easiest escape is to blame the Chinese and innocent Chinese blood was spilled for Umno madness.
Really?
So what about UK lands in the Peninsula? What was that called Tanah UK?
And what about the 4 northern states that belonged to Thailand, that the Sultan groveled to the UK to take back? Tanah Thai?
And previous to that all the lands owned by Portugal and Holland? Tanah Portugal and Holland?
And how about the fiefdom of Raja Brooke in Borneo? Tanah Brooke?
Each state may have had its own Sultan and government but that does not = Malaysia!
If Malaysia was your own land to control then how come we had to have independence? I suppose Umno teach you that you have to declare independence from yourself?
Stupidest thing I ever heard!
You should go study Malaysia history, real Malaysia history not that doctored UMNO garbage!
Danny,
Who the fuck are you to verify which history is valid and which history is not? Don't talk about history to me when you can't even make a simple wrong or right assessment nor comparison on the palestinian-israeli issue laa, which is just recent in the context of world history. Your dumbass logic can't even tell who were there first on palestinian lands, whether it was the palestinians first or the zionist jews first and yet you have the cheek to try to validate over an issue that happened hundreds of years ago, whether Hang Li Po ever existed or not? Surely, you don't expect any sensible person to take you seriously… right? *chuckles*
Why do I even bother arguing with you ingrates? I already know where the current scenario is leading to. Blood conflict is imminent and inevitable as prophesied in the prophecies because you ingrates lack in knowledge historically and simply refuse to assimilate to the predominant mould to receive your God-given right nor leave this country peacefully when you know it does not serve your identity nor ideology. You insist on being accepted without shedding your ancestors immigrant mentality which contradicts the very basic rule of life, that you shall not deserve anything until you’ve made the necessary sacrifices in the right direction.
At the end of the day all I need to know is that when it comes to defending the country with blood, sweat and tears… I know the number of Malays in the service far supercede the number of non-Malays and that’s good enough for me. I just hope and pray to dear Allah that we Malays are able to maintain our sanity when all this shit goes down and all hell breaks loose as not to transgress the bounds of humanity despite being challenged by the immigrant descent non-Malays on our own promised land.
I’m grateful to Allah that my Arab and Chinese ancestors were wise folks who secured me and their other descendants with a little piece of historical patronage or bondage to the promised land by marrying into the Malays and I shall continue to pray and defend for the rights of those immigrant descent non-Malays who are with a spark of hope just like my ancestral immigrant forefathers once did before them. To the rest of you ingrates… you either shape up or ship out! *chuckles*
Danny,
agreed on that matter. told you that it's not worth telling ppl like that. they are not aware of what's around them. they are not bother to read properly. i love to quote House MD in 1 of his series, "emotion decays your ability of proper judgement."
by the way, have you read article 153 of federal constitution? guess what, there is no such thing as Malay rights!! funny isn't it, how people had been making ruckus over matter that doesn't even exist.
Qama Gill,
Thank you for your invitation, appreciate that. But I do believe in some form of protection accorded to all the Natives (Malay included). But it should be termed Natives right (or Hak Orang asal) and be implemented in a much fairer term to the Orang Asal. Currently, the hak bumiputera is heavily discriminating the orang asals. Look at the Iban, Dayak, Kadazan, Dusun, Kayan, and all the ornag-orang asli. They make up all the hardcore poor, thanks to Hak Bumiputera. It is the Malays special right that is discriminating against them.
Nazry,
Hey, I'm only following your line of argument, completely agreeing with you and extended it to solve the World's problem using YOUR logic! If you think that is stupid, hey, that's your logic! Not mine…
Talking about twisting history, I bet you still believe that Hang Li Po was a princess from China, as "recorded" in "Sejarah". Truth is Hang Li Po doesn't even existed in the Ming Dynasty Record. "Sejarah" said that Hang Li Po married to Sultan Mansur Shah (1456 ~ 1477 AD) in the year 1459 AD, and she arrived in Malacca following the Convoy of Admiral Cheng Ho. Truth is by 1433 AD (the year Admiral Cheng Ho died), Ming Dynasty in China have closed all its ports and the Emperor have given the executive order of "Not a single piece of wood, should touch the sea". Hence, there were no more Cheng Ho voyages after 1433. This is historical fact and is easily verifiable as it is recorded in writing in the Official Chinese History record. So, you tell me, how is it possible that "Princess" Hang Li Po could followed Cheng Ho to Malacca in 1459 (26 years after Cheng Ho had died)? who is twisting history, Sejarah or me?
It is "Sejarah" that is twisting history to serve the racist propaganda of the Government. Not me, you'll come to the same conclusion if you had bothered to read more Real History books, rather than placing your faiths in the convoluted "Sejarah".
Rejected,
finally somebody sensible popped up around here. you do have a wise point on that. it's not about race or religion, it's about how we bring ourselves. people's mentality is what cause all things around us, let it be for good or bad.
Danny,
no point of telling people that refuse to change. they decline everything though it's for a better profit and will continue to succumb in their arrogance. perhaps we can meet up over a cup of coffee someday.
Nazri,
i hope you will see the truth around you sooner or later. one day, when you arrive in a place where you turn into a minority, only then you'll what's feel like to be discriminated. may God bless you in future undertaking.
No offense but (ops, something offensive coming) I'll be honest and say some of every group are racist.
To make things clearer, I'm a Chinese who wasn't exposed to mandarin or any clan dialect plus I look like a non-chinese. Guess what happened? people discriminate me for that but hey, it's not like I choose not to learn or to look like that. Chinese would say I'm of the lower class while the others would give me the same treatment.
As a child, I spend most of the time thinking why? and some unhappy things do happen every few week. All these actually helped me. I realized "why?" or "blame them" aren't important and we should take people as what they are. Now, I don't judge anyone, not at all. You can be lazy or arrogant or dark skinned or whatever, I'll just accept you for who you are.
Statistic or history or proof. It all goes down to our mentality, of how we choose to look at all these evidence.
Yes, I believe the main problem would be the mentality of (I would say) almost every single person. The low mentality that hinders unity.
Hahaha! Stupid Danny… what kind of comparison laa you make? I feel like all chinese are incompetent in digesting history and cannot tell apart from what is right and what is wrong based on Danny's unintelligent statement. But I know better than to generalise and stereotype all the chinese as hopeless because there's still a spark of hope for people like Eunice and the likes of her, perhaps with a little bit of exposure and common sense.
The palestinians were there first, the zionist jews came later. Why should the palestinians submit and assimilate into the zionist jews on their own palestinian ancestral land? It should be the other way around. The more similar comparison to this would be Singapore immigrant chinese annexation towards the Malays on their own ancestral Malay land.
But coming from Danny, I'm not suprised at all how a typical immigrant mentality chinaman would twist and turn the sense of moral in history in order to serve their skewed agenda. Sorry Danny… your pitiful assessment in moral history proved to be a great flaw in your misguided sense of righteousness. Again I hold my conscience ever so clear above yours, that is if you have any conscience laa. *chuckles*
Qama, I don't give a shit about your conscience because you're an imbecile not even worth to be called a Malay. There's was "huge broom" replica as symbolic "to sweep out" the Malays at the background in one of the photographs taken during the DAP & Gerakan parade procession on the 11th May 1969 prior to the 13th May incident and you're siding the chinese for not instigating the incident? Are you blind or stupid? NEP wasn't even drafted back then as an excuse for the chinese to complain about discriminatory treatment. You're just as imbecelic as Danny in history digestion, just as bad as any other hopeless Malay as to a hopeless chinese… no better than the nuisance mat rempits… Bodoh sombong.
Nazri – I am not against assimilation, as long as it is not just a one-way street. But you and I both know that assimilation is impossible as long as the Constitution defines Malay=Muslim. We can all speak fluent Malay, follow Malay adat, give up our own cultures and languages, and we will still not be Malay. That decision was taken when UMNO rejected Onn bin Ja'afar's plan to admit all races into UMNO, except those who spoke Malay and converted to Islam. So don't insult our intelligence by pretending otherwise.
Nazri,
Thank you for your honesty. I think you do have a brilliant idea. Yeah, we Chinese, Indians, Kadazans, Dusuns, Dayaks, Kayans, Ibans, Melanaus, and other orang aslis that I can't recall their tribes names now are all whining too much about the discrimination done on us. You are right, the reason that we are being discriminated because we are not Malays. So, your logic is perfect, we should all be assimilated into the great Malay race. "Masuk Melayu" so to speak. If everyone "masuk Melayu", no one will be discriminated anymore, racial problem in Malaysia solved! Great! So, all I have to do is to turn my back on my ancestors, denounce my ethnicity and call myself a Malay. If I don't do so, I'm an ungrateful Chinese Chauvinist refuse to go back to my country of Identity.
I think you are the greatest Malay thinker in the century, your ideology is so great that I think it could solve all the World Conflict too! The idiom great minds think alike is really true here. Your ideology is exactly the same as the Zionist Jewish State Ideology. The Zionist ideology is that if you embraced Judaism and follow all the tradition and living style of a Jews, you will then become a Jew and will be granted the citizenship of Israel. Hey, this is great! Your idea is the perfect solution for the Palestinians problem too! They are now persecuted by the evil and repressive Zionist Jewish State. So, why don't they all "masuk Yahudi"? Right? If they all become Jews, then the Jews will no longer persecute them? Then there will finally be peace in the Middle East. Isn't that great! Hurray! World Peace courtesy of the great Nazri!!!!
Nazri,
I found it that you are taking more than u can chew. your base of argument solely revolves on non-malays participation in military. you already negates the truth of why they are not willing to join the military in the first place. truth facts on the condemned events of May 1969 proved that Malays was the reason of the attack. there's no threat made by the chinese, it's just a sense of inferiority among Malays that came up with that scheme of raping democracy.
i don't understand your logic of this so-called "tuan rumah" mentality. Malay is not a host in this land to begin with. if you don't wake up to that fact, you are doom to perish in your own paranoia. i love what had been posted by Good man in the term of the reason of Malays not able to compete in term of economy. face it that is the main reason of failure all this while. the subsidized mentality and relying too much on quotas. the NEP is a failure and it decays the will to succeed.
you can throw tantrums on me. i don't mind. i know where i stand now compared to you. at least i can always hold my conscience clear.
It is amazing that one can find so much disguised chauvinism among these words.
If we continue to represent only based on communal lines,then we do so at our own peril.
Andrew,
At least it has been proven historically there were appointments of non-Malays more than one occassion to be on positions equivalent to generals in the Malaysian Armed Forces. Isn't that proof enough that "Malay"sia made up of majority Malays are willing to give non-Malays a chance without being discriminatory on their race compared to what has Singapore have to offer to the Malays since it was dominated by the chinese? You don't bloody care because you're just as bloody racially chauvinistic as the rest of these ingrates who demand to be accepted as "Malay"sians but would not even consider to assimilate into the predominant mould in order to receive that privilege even after the Malays openly show sincerety by elevating some of the non-Malays back then to the top brass.
Who says the Royal Malay Regiment are 100% Malay? I have many friends who serve the Royal Malay Regiment who's ancestors were chinese and indians married into the Malays. Is it their ancestors fault for assimilating into the predominant mould after realising that they are standing on Malay soil far away from their native identity country of origin? Or is it your ancestor's fault and now falls as your own fault for not realising that in which you can secure the privilleges for your future descendants? Nowadays, even the Sultan can afford not to be 100% Malay (the current Sultan of Johor) but we Malays still pledge our allegiance to him as to any other Malay Sultans. It is you Andrew and the likes of you who need to wake up!
I don't give a shit about the foreign newspapers report on the Royal Malay Regiment's conduct back in 1969 as you can afford to not give a shit on what happens to the Malays in Singapore… like you said, this is "Malay"sia. *chuckles*
What quota are you talking about Andrew? As far as I'm concerned there's no quota to join the army volunteers if you think that the regular army are discriminatory based on race. But till today the number of Malay reserved army volunteers still supercede the number of non-Malays. Please don't insult my intelligence by giving lame excuses other than the fact that most non-Malays find it hard to stomach being drilled for one whole fucking month in a boot camp with a meagre allowance of 800 ringgit at the end of it… and yet many of you have the cheek to call the Malays lazies. Face it… many of you ingrates have not shed enough immigrant mentality to pledge sincere allegiance and show honest loyalty to this country and it's sovereign rulers… at least not for 800 ringgit you won't. *chuckles* But if it was 3000-5000 ringgit, then perhaps we'll see a different scenario… but that obviously does not portray loyalty, infact it resonates immigrant mentality even more to almost mercenary like (soldiers for hire) *chuckles*
Andrew… I do not disgrace my regiment any more than you disgracing yourself by calling yourself a "Malay"sian. *chuckles*
The malays do not exist as a unique tribe but are the result of centuries of mix amongst various ethnic groups – migrants from Yunnan, Polynesia, Java, Sumatra, Turkey, Arabia, India, Siam, Cambodia, Laos.
Once they began to populate the Malayan Peninsula – (which wasn't named for the malay race but derives from the Tamil word for "mountain" – malai) they figured it would be advantageous to claim ownership of the land by dubbing it Tanah Melayu.
It was mostly a political part of various pirate bloodlines to create their own Promised Land.
Malaysia belongs to the ethnic Chinese as much as the malays. The malays are not the original aborigines in malay Peninsula. They have only arrived in Malaysia just a few hundred years earlier than the Chinese who have been there since the Tang Dynasty or earlier.
And there are many other indigenous peoples in Sabah and Sarawak who are not related to malays at all. Therefore Malaysia is not the country of the malays alone. It is just as much the country of the Chinese and the many other races from the Indians to the many aborigines and indigenous peoples.
For the Chinese – the British colonial era was much more beneficial than the current malay bully era. During the British colonial era the malays were polite and the Chinese held just about all the highest positions in the government and the police.
Now there is hardly any Chinese left in the government and the police. And while the Chinese were allowed to do any business during the colonial era, they are now not allowed to do anything other than own a few shops.
The society was also much safer during the colonial era. There were hardly any crimes when the efficient Chinese police officers ran an efficient police force to minimize crimes.
And the Chinese were very safe being able to call on the protection of the Chinese dominated police. And the government was also very clean, corruption free and efficient under the British rule.
Now the government is just a cesspool of corruption where nothing is done. Therefore, for the Chinese – the malays are the daggers in the heart. If Malaysia had remained under the British rule, it would have grown as rich as Hong Kong. The worst thing that has happened for the Chinese is independence.
The Chinese have migrated to Malaysia and other Southeast Asia places as early as the Tang Dynasty more than 1000 years ago. For instance, Mountain Kinabalu means Chinese Widow (Mountain Kinabalu is in Sabah, East Malaysia).
This shows how long Chinese peoples have been in Southeast Asia. Chinese have certainly earned the right to feel they are rightful citizens of any country and place in Southeast Asia.
Furthermore, United Nations does not discriminate against immigrants in any country. The UN does not sanction a set of rights for so-called immigrants and natives. All have the same rights. Even in UK no Chinese or Indians have to pay more for food or for housing. But in Malaysia they do. Therefore, the Chinese and the Indians don't need to tolerate this.
It is also bad logic to say the Chinese are recent migrants to Malaysia. As indicated above, the Chinese have been in Malaysia hundreds of years before America was even discovered by Columbus.
If the white Americans are entitled to consider themselves masters of America, then certainly the Chinese have even more moral right to consider themselves masters of Malaysia.
As I have pointed out, Sabah and Sarawak are not homelands of the malays. The Chinese were in Sabah and Sarawak long before the malays were ever there.
The Chinese have been there longer than the whites have been in America. The Chinese have been in Sabah and Sarawak even longer than the malays. The Chinese have been responsible for most of the wealth of Malaysia. Therefore, they are entitled to consider themselves equal owners of Malaysia.
As I said, the Chinese had been in the government, the military and the police under the British but are now out of the government, the military and the police under the malays. The Chinese were also allowed much more freedom to do business under the British than under the malays.
In fact, the Chinese can now do no more than own small shops. So it is obvious that the Chinese had been better treated by the British than by the malays. Just because the British had created division between the Chinese and the malays does not mean the Chinese are now treated better by the malays.
I have no doubt at all that if the British had not left, Malaysia would be just as developed and prosperous as Hong Kong or Singapore. The stupid malays have ruined the Malaysia economy while robbing the Chinese.
I didn't see the Chinese fighting the malays under the colonial rule. If there were any fighting – it started after the British had left when the malays started killing the Chinese in the May 13 incident in 1969. And now the malays are constantly threatening the Chinese with more massacres similar to the May 13.
Malay leaders in Malaysia like to see their folks contained in a chicken coop. They tell them that they are free and yet to be beholden to them as they are the ones providing them their feed.
They even believe that if they left the coop, they might be eaten up by the wily fox, and that they might otherwise starve to death.
The Singapore malays is in no illusions and they know they are out of the coop. They got to find their own nourishment and they got no leader throwing in the crumbs to them.
If they don't want to labour for their food, they can always go across the causeway and be given citizenship rights and take advantage of all the crumbs thrown at them. But most of them will not.
Of course the chicken shit from there have all long crossed over. But the rest have a little more dignity and stay on to show what they are really made up of.
I respect the Singapore malays for that. It does not matter that they have made a lot of wrong turns or that they have hardly a fighting chance. But they got more respect and dignity than their kinsfolk from over here Malaysia.
This is what half-past-six ministers that we have in Malaysia. Even comparison between Singapore malays and Malaysian Chinese, Singapore malays are never discriminated by their government based on equality.
I have so many Singapore malay friends from school mates, college mates to business partners. Penang malays would be so glad if they are treated like Singapore malays. Just ask the Singaporeans……….do they want to be back to Malaysia?
The problem with the Malaysia malays is their jealous attitude. If they are left behind, they will prevent others from moving ahead too! And sometimes even sabotaging others, and some resort the use to cast spell on others.
Not only the laid back malays are preventing their own people from being successful, but other races too. We also want the malays to be successful by creating value in the society so that everyone benefit but not by taxing the non-malays then give contracts to the malays, who will then deliver half-past-six service.
Change your own attitude first through value creation using your own tears and sweats!
As said before, had Malaysia been managed by Lee Kuan Yew and his colleagues for the past 50 years, Malaysia would have been much better off today, including all the malays! 95% would have owned a house, and no such rampant corruption!
For the malay ultras, facts speak louder than your bigotry cries, wake up, grow up, be men instead of sissies!
You see the problem here – the malays just cannot face up to their main problem – Laziness. This shows how thick-skinned and self-deluded these people are.
Malaysia is a multi-racial country. Jika kamu tak suka, kamu boleh blar……….tiada orang larang kamu.
The fact is malays you are the biggest loser! I am trying to wake you up instead of using the way like what our government is practice to provide NEP even though it is proven NEP is a failure in the past 30 years. Keep on dreaming if you think Malaysia could achieve Vision 2020 with your kind of attitude!
Speaking without substances and distorting facts seems to be the good old habitual ways of Malaysia malays, which is probably inherited by their much loved masters, the "malay killers" – Umno.
To add to this, constant distorted facts with regards to the situational state of the Singapore malays remains among the commentators of Umno. It is hard not to see that some people really need to see the situation and know it first hand before dishing out their empty vessel mentalities.
Anyways, good thing you be it Malay, Indian, Chinese in Singapore is open to competition, and cherish diversity. Not like the radical son of terrorist we can find many in Malaysia.
Most malays in Malaysia hate diversity and discontent to the minorities, especially the Chinese. In blog, radical malays can be either extreme or pretentiously diverse-minded. Very few is genuine.
I do admit there are lazy malays that depend on handouts, but this kind of malays will be phase out and this kind I would say hypocrites. They tend to claim they work hard to achieve success, in fact they relaying on government support. I myself despise this kind of human being.
Little do they realize this safety net is fast disappearing because the government is finding it increasingly difficult to maintain the system in the face of global challenges! But these handouts have become an addiction. Refuse the junkie and you get booted out of power.
It is the malays themselves that must come to realize the damaging side effects of the NEP. For someone who wants no better than to see his own race succeed, this must be painful.
And you can often see the malays are usually envious of not only the non-malays, but of their own successful malays as well.
Malays failed is a fact. What make non-malays not happy about their failure is, they fail despite get ample help from the government.
And they continue putting the blame on their fail to, especially the Malaysian Chinese. This is why created so many issue and argument here.
But those greedy Umno guys keep emphasis the NEP, how many percent of the country wealth belong to malays. In fact, those Umno guys having super good life by easy way.
And they keep on demanding, not really review what was wrong with it, putting the blame to non-malays, to stir the racist sentiment in the country.
If present situation continue, even the malays get 60% of the country wealth, majority of the malays will still munch.
Simple solution – come to Singapore and see for yourselves even if you want to guise that our Singapore malays are in lesser numbers on success than the Malaysia idiotic counterparts – our Singapore malays are based on merit and not on such keris wielding Umno policies……….are you proud of that?
Once again, in a subtle and indirect manner, this forum has proven how naive and "katak bawah tempurung" a Malaysia malay can be. Blame who? The Umno policies.
Yes, start collecting the achieves with regards to moral degradation among Malaysia malays. Look at the Umno ministers when they speak on national TV. Qualify or not become ministers with such low reactive capabilities?
Some Malaysia malays saying Singapore malays quota should be more in the Singapore cabinet if compared to the Indians. First, Singapore government is based on merit system and not like you bunch of racist morons here. That is why Malaysia is so backward if compared to Korea and others.
Not many Malaysia malays can survive if they go oversea because they are slow and lazy and that is why they can't compete with the competitive market out there. Normally they will end up hiding their heads in Malaysia with the protection and biased system by the Malaysia government.
Come on, man. We do not have time to argue the truth of your on and on talk about "not all malays are spoon fed, not all malays are lazy". Like we are dying to argue that when we already know it is true.
It is human nature to blame everyone about their plight rather than blame themselves. The majority of new generation of malays in Singapore is educated, unlike their parents.
Please read the comments made by Singapore malays why they can hold their heads up and be proud as a Singapore malay and then maybe it will sink into you.
Muslims everywhere unless they are the minority, cannot tolerate people with different religions. The Singapore government handles the situation rather well as they handle their malay community with kid gloves.
I am non-Muslim bumi – purely and originally from the land of Borneo – you malays have no right at all to speak here – pack your bag and go back to Indonesia where your nenek moyang came from.
Shame on you for calling others immigrant. There is no such thing as "hak bumiputra"! It is just a cover up for "hak migrant melayu"! Bangsa terrorist has no space here in my land.
Only those Semenanjung people who have lived in Sabah or Sarawak know the true meaning of integration and tolerance!
The only reason why there is many so-called pendatang in your malay land is primarily because your malay ancestors were a bunch of village idiots – who'd much rather let the white man take advantage of the nation great resources and run its affairs, while malays sat on their lazy asses collecting food for royalties.
Don't for a moment think that you and your ilk could have done it all alone in bringing this country to this stage of development, all by yourselves without the blood, sweat and tears of the non-malays.
Malays have not done non-malays any favors. We are all Malaysians, we all built this country and us non-malays………..no, better yet, Malaysians are here to stay!
Allowing the views of the non-malays to be heard in Malaysia. Otherwise, the malays will think that the non-malays are tolerating the nonsense of UMNO.
You are living in the wrong country, in a wrong era. It is you malay who should pack your bag, and head to a desert, to live with your camel humping brethren in Saudi Arabia.
So get off your supremacist horse, because if not for the collective work of all Malaysians, an ignoramus like you would most likely be tilling the paddy fields or plucking the coconuts right now – instead of having the benefit of using a computer to surf the Internet and post rubbish on a board!
My uncle left Malaysia in the 1970s. He graduated from MIT and did his PhD in Yale on computer science. I dare say, that was when computer science era just starting.
He was a very patriotic man, a scout graduated from Royal Military College. He came back to Malaysia after his PhD to serve this country. Looked for a job in University Malaya. They told him point blank, we have openings, but it is only for bumis.
He left for greener pastures in United States. Has been a US citizen for a few decades now. He has contributed widely to the field of computer science and is still doing so.
He never forgave Malaysia for turning their backs to him. And I guess he never will.